Flooding in Queensland

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First of all, I hope everybody in Towoomba is safe and hasn't lost any loved ones in the flash flooding.

Anyone else in Queensland feeling the major flooding going on? I live in Gympie QLD and if any of you know where that is you'll know we're having lots of fun ^_^ The Mary river Hit 19 meters and is only just starting to fall... with some more heavy rain forecast...

Thanks to Gympie the supply line to pretty much all of northen QLD is cut off.

Post some flood pics here.

11/01/2011

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SevenII

Its not a race for how many deaths we can get.

A lot of vehicles, homes and whole districts have been swallowed by this torrent. Not to mention the irreplacable personal items most people didn't have time to save. The human toll is just the kicker.

And this doesn't just effect QLDers.

This is going to take years to recover from, as a nation.

And it hasn't exactly stopped yet..

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Desi

Magoolz said: But put bluntly desi, 15 people? I mean... really?
As Carterr said, 270 people have died and hardly anyone cares. Yet there's people (Ive read on various news sites) all around the world concerned for those that died in QLD.

I am surprised that you are so surprised about this.

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Magoolz

Oh god, spare me Seven.

What about the bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki? They pretty much leveled the surrounding area, killed about 250k, polluted the surrounding land with radiation etc.

Perhaps thats a bad example, but IMO Australia needs to man-up, and realise that countries have endured a LOT more hardship and recovered. Hell, look at Japan now.

@Desi - So am I :P

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GreenThumb

@Magoolz It was a different circumstance. The bombings were to end a war. This is mother nature, You can't compare those two.

edit: I bet if you go to those other countries, It'll be all over their news. Also QLD is a financial giant in Aus. Mining and Crops for example. Thats all grinded to a halt, There is no exports coming out of QLD now. The Aussie Dollar will take a hit (it's already dropped 3% in the last 2 weeks)

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SevenII

Nope, you'll have to spare me.

GreenThumb said: @Magoolz It was a different circumstance. The bombings were to end a war. This is mother nature, You can't compare those two.
Lets not turn this thread about the Floods into something it shouldn't be

+ A million.

No more derailing this thread with rhetoric.

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Magoolz

I agree with your last part though.

Nice seven -_- [Facepalm]

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GreenThumb

There was also a news report on a few towns in N.S.W at the border who also received heavy flooding. But they are all in good spirits since they didn't get it as bad as QLD. Most of them even opted to sit outside the pub on their dingies and have a few beers.

(in some places the flood water there is 2+ metres and alot of homes bottom floors are flooded. One man has been stuck in the top floor of his house for the last 3 days, But he is still in good spirits)

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Magoolz

I would post something, but I'm afraid my opinions get deleted.

Fair call GreenThumb :)

E: posted before message...

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iamtom

Magoolz said: I would post something, but I'm afraid my opinions get deleted.

cool story bro.

In any case, stop yer' trollin', lads. The floods are not a competition for deaths. They have no relevance to WWII. They are not a sign for 2012. Australia will not fall into economic depression. It is a tragedy, and one that thankfully (and sadly) only a dozen-odd people have not made it through.

This is your first and last warning, from me. I have no mercy when it comes to eradication, especially with topics like this. I'm all cool with you posting your opinion, but if I think it's trolltastic, I'll delete it on the spot. Consider this any PM I would send to any of you. You know the rules, and so do I. A full commitment is what I'm thinking of. You wouldn't get this from any other admin.

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Magoolz

I have been PM'd; I said in my other post.

BTW: I didn't mean to troll.

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The questions i would be asking now would be:

(a) How wise is it for us, as a nation, to allow so many people to build homes in what is a known flood plain? The 1974 floods resulted in a lot of criticism for those living in that area for building there. Clearly, the lesson was not learnt.

(b) Will we have the wisdom to seek to learn to live with floods rather than trying to artificially cease them? The dams in place were built in part for that reason - it has failed......finding a way to live with mother nature rather than trying to resist her is far wiser. If you try you can rest assured, she will eat you alive in the long run.

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Skarteh

Magoolz said: I have been PM'd; I said in my other post.
BTW: I didn't mean to troll.

You appear to actually be that stupid, so I'll take your word for it. [Facepalm]

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Prime

Skarteh said:

Magoolz said: I have been PM'd; I said in my other post.
BTW: I didn't mean to troll.

You appear to actually be that stupid, so I'll take your word for it.

Sorry, i have not read all the posts in this thread but am i reading a mod calling a member "stupid"? [WTF]

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iamtom

way_maker said:
Skarteh said:

Magoolz said: I have been PM'd; I said in my other post.
BTW: I didn't mean to troll.

You appear to actually be that stupid, so I'll take your word for it.

Sorry, i have not read all the posts in this thread but am i reading a mod calling a member "stupid"?

Yeah.

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GreenThumb

My answers:

(a) This will be a chance to rebuild and change the structure layout and such now that it's classed as a flood plain (also they said the 1974 floods were a "1 in 100 year event" which is what they are calling this one)

(b) The dam's have not exactly failed. All dams are built to hold a certain amount of water, Wivenhoe's dam was almost spilling over the top (Which COULD have cause monolith cracks onto the face and make the structure weaker, Think of it as it would've been a steady stream of water over the top and down the face) So they took the right procedure to open the Flood Gates and empty the water into the Brisbane River. Put it this way, If they didn't open the Flood Gates when they did they would've risked the whole dam collapsing. The dams were already holding more water than they deem "safe" anyways.

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Magoolz

I saw on the news last night (I think) that there was a similar flooding incident in QLD about 30-odd years ago, was it worse than the current one?

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GreenThumb said: My answers:
(a) This will be a chance to rebuild and change the structure layout and such now that it's classed as a flood plain (also they said the 1974 floods were a "1 in 100 year event" which is what they are calling this one)
(b) The dam's have not exactly failed. All dams are built to hold a certain amount of water, Wivenhoe's dam was almost spilling over the top (Which COULD have cause monolith cracks onto the face and make the structure weaker, Think of it as it would've been a steady stream of water over the top and down the face) So they took the right procedure to open the Flood Gates and empty the water into the Brisbane River. Put it this way, If they didn't open the Flood Gates when they did they would've risked the whole dam collapsing. The dams were already holding more water than they deem "safe" anyways.

The wivenhoe dam was built as a direct response to the 1974 flood. In that regard, it has failed miserably as a means to stop flooding. If this is not failure i do not know what is.

The response was lets build an artificial structure to stop flooding, so more people can build.

BIG mistake.

Will we learn from this flood and respond differently to how we responded to 1974?

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@Magoolz

Nope, this is the successor to that one.

Don't know by how much though. :S

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iamtom

way_maker said:
Will we learn from this flood and respond differently to how we responded to 1974?

Nah, I say we just build a bigger dam.

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Magoolz

SevenII said: @Magoolz
Nope, this is the successor to that one.
Don't know by how much though.

Was that 1974?

Geez :S

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Prime

iamtom said:

way_maker said:
Will we learn from this flood and respond differently to how we responded to 1974?

Nah, I say we just build a bigger dam.
myfacewhen.com/...

History indicates we are likely to then be taught a more painful lesson.

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M@ndyz

why are we even debating in this thread.. [MOG]

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Desi

way_maker said: The wivenhoe dam was built as a direct response to the 1974 flood. In that regard, it has failed miserably as a means to stop flooding. If this is not failure i do not know what is.
The response was lets build an artificial structure to stop flooding, so more people can build.
BIG mistake.
Will we learn from this flood and respond differently to how we responded to 1974?

There is nothing people can do to stop Nature at its worst. For all we know that dam did its work by preventing many minor floods in the past. In the face of such a deluge of water, you can't really say that it didn't do anything to help — if it hadn't been built, people would be complaining about how the dam wasn't there and maybe it could have helped things.

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iamtom said:
way_maker said:
Will we learn from this flood and respond differently to how we responded to 1974?

Nah, I say we just build a bigger dam.
myfacewhen.com/...

Lolwtf at that image. :S :P

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